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Fantastic Four
is opening up a week after July 4th. How
do you both feel the film will stand up
to the popularity of “War of the
Worlds”?
Tim Story: I’m just happy
about the movie coming out. Thinking of
the competition, you know, this is a
crowded summer. And don’t really think
you can guess what’s going to happen.
I’m just really happy at what’s going on
and the job that Fox has done. I mean,
it’s everywhere. I just think we have a
family movie that is light and fun. A
popcorn movie that we can come in the
theatre and sit back and have a good
time. I just think that this summer has
kind of been looking forward to
something like our movie. And hopefully
we get blessed with an audience.
Avi Arad:
I feel this is quite different
from most of the movies this summer.
Quite a bit of the movies are on the
dark side. Fantastic Four is more an
action comedy adventure. I think that
all of the answers are going to be on
the top end. Similar, young men and
young women; on the low end, we have a
hidden treasure which is young kids.
This movie was designed for everybody.
It’s a family movie. Fun, comedy and
heart is the intense end of it. But
really true to the way Fantastic Four is
supposed to be. Like sibling rivalry,
that kind of comedy, that if you saw the
movie, you should know it’s there.
What kind of pressure did you feel
directing one of Marvel’s most
successful comics?
Tim Story: You know your
already walking into an audience that
already expects a certain thing. Knowing
that, I think, in all films, when you’re
doing films there is a certain pressure
that’s not just from the studio, it’s
from yourself or whatever. The pressure
just came from myself. I knew
immediately what I was getting into and
Avi was quick to educate me on what I
was getting into and I was able to talk
to a couple of directors that had been
through this history of being booed and
they talk about you on the internet. And
Avi told me immediately, do not read the
internet. You know, they picked me for
certain things and they say they only
picked you for story and character and
this and that. But they said where going
to support for the effects and action
and stuff. So go ahead and do what it is
that you do. And with that kind of
support it just comes down to getting
through the rainy days of Vancouver. And
that’s what the real pressure comes
from. When you’re out there shooting,
you’re surrounded by people out there
that support you. No ones sitting in
front of you saying no you can’t do it;
they’re all saying what’s next?, so…the
pressure was big but I dealt with it.
What qualities did Tim Story have
that made him good for the job?
Avi Arad:
Well, my Tim Story journey started by my
wife and I going to see Barbershop. And
Barbershop, as you remember was 10
characters in one room for two hours. A
lot of story and a lot of terrific
acting. And for Fantastic Four, we
needed someone with a good heart, a
light head and a sense of comedy that
can follow a group. It’s very difficult.
You can follow one character but this
one is pretty much of mayhem. We have
five characters, six characters in a
way…and you know, a very short period of
time, to introduce to the world, the
uninitiated Fantastic Four. You know,
who they are and what they’re destiny
is. And then we met with Tim, and we
really feel the directors put themselves
on the screen in many ways. This movie
is about a good heart and you have to be
light with the problems. You have to
accept the destiny and we just loved it.
But then he did one more thing that was
the perfect ending to the story. He had
to go home and talk to his wife about
it. And actually was expecting a baby.
Tim Story:
Yeah.
Avi Arad:
He had to figure out, on one hand it’s
the opportunity of a lifetime for
someone who has always loved the
Fantastic Four, at the same time, it’s
about family so I don’t know, but when
he left and said that he has to talk to
his wife, we just looked around and we
knew we got the right guy.
The action
sequences were great in the film. Can
you tell me if there were any casualties
on the set? Was there anything that
might have gone wrong?
Tim Story:
Luckily, we didn’t have a lot of
casualties. The casualties were probably
just …
Avi Arad:
Us!
Tim Story:
Yeah. Us. Being rained out. And you
know, we trying to come up with ideas.
You put an 11 hundred truck on 300 feet
of the Brooklyn Bridge; it’s raining so
you got big screens overhead. Casualties
were basically us and our feelings
because not everyday was the day for us.
But as far as people working on the
movie and things like that, we had a
really…I mean, you know, considering a
quick prep in rainy Vancouver, we did
pretty well for ourselves.
Avi Arad:
We had great stunt teams. And we take
great care with it. I’ve been doing it
for a long time. Always these big action
movies. And we understand the pitfalls
and nothing worse can happen on the set
if someone gets injured because of a
careless planning. So, we put a lot of
planning into it.
Can you talk a little bit about the
casting of the 5 main roles?
Tim Story: What’s cool about
films like this and Marvel and Fox have
been like…umm, champion for…they’re all
just looking for the best cast. Their
not really concerned with looking for
the most stratified star or whatever the
case maybe. Who’s ever best for the
role, they’ll pay for them, even if it
costs more money. So, in this case, we
looked for the best cast and luckily
enough we were able to find the five,
six including Kerry (Alicia Masters) you
know the six people that were best for
the part. So, when it comes to people
like Jessica, is that she came in
because she was right. She came in
blond, because Sue Storm has always been
blond in the comic books. We just look
for the best character. And with all
these guys, you know they were such a
find. I don’t know who could have played
these parts better than they did. They
came in and people like, Ioan and Chris
just came out of nowhere. They were just
so good they just blew us away.
What
correlation is there to the film and the
comic books now that the movie is out?
Are the comic books selling more because
of the film? Have you captured a new,
younger audience?
Avi Arad: That is a good
question. Actually, after Spider Man we
saw the resurgence of comic books to
kids. It was a new discovery. And what
we did this year as Marvel, we are now
selling these comics at 7-11,
Walgreen’s…places where a kid can get to
them. A lot of the issues with business
is that kids couldn’t get to the store.
With Fantastic Four, we went a step
further. We actually did a program with
the schools called “Do the Right Thing”.
and lesson plans and we brought the
comics right to the kids. And their
reaction was fantastic. So, if you go
out to major chains. You’ll see comics
designed for younger kids. The
philosophy is, if you can read comics
and have fun with it, it’s even better.
So, now when we put up movies, like
Fantastic Four, that is positive and has
a rich fulfillment. And has empowerment
and a soft end of what’s right…we
support it with comics written for that.
You know, ultimate Fantastic Four was a
huge success. This move will obviously
have pushed the agenda.
How much did you feel you needed to
stay true to the comic? And how much did
you feel you could vary? How much
emphasis did you place on each of the 5
characters?
Avi Arad: First, the movie is
very true the comics. The only
difference between…and again when you
talk about origin when you publish the
books, trust me, there is no scenario
that was written by someone at
sometime…what worked very well in our
movie and historically was to connect
the villain to the hero. And the only
thing that I keep on reading about and
hearing about is that Victor was on the
space ship. The idea was, let us get to
know Victor as a man first. He is human
and has human flaws and is connected to
the hero team. Therefore, the conflict
from a villain to a hero is personal.
The whole idea behind this movie, the
reason Tim is directing this movie, is
relationships. As I said to you, the
CGI, the specialist stuff, you don’t
need to know that. But the guys who take
care of that need to know what we want
to see. So, it’s very true to the
comics. And eventually, Doom looked
exactly like Dr. Doom. But it was most
important to connect him to the team
upfront. All the rest comes out of the
story. And how much screen time each one
gets, well, you need Ben to drive the
idea that sometimes hero’s is not the
best thing that can happen to you. You
need Johnny to interact with all of
them. You need Sue to be the glue for
all of them. The script ends of
determining screen time. It’s not like
we turn around and say Jessica needs
another seen. The story tells you who is
going to be at the forefront of a
certain story within the movie.
Did you preview
the film to some fans and went back to
make changes based on those reactions?
Tim Story: The fan base, like
I was saying before, which I understand
that in Hein site it was probably the
best thing to do for me. Originally the
fan base, I don’t mind fans, but they
weren’t too happy with me. And Avi said
don’t listen to them. My true gages was
my knowledge of the comic books and
growing up on them I felt pretty good
about my position. And really, you know
Avi and Kevin over at Marvel, we really
discussed what we needed to do to
maintain and really what’s best for the
fan base. Avi and Kevin have done so
many of these movies…they get it.
They’ve done every nuance of movies that
I’ve done in terms of that so, I never
felt that pressure. But at the same
time, what’s cool about all the guys
that I’ve worked with and you know, we
also had to realize that we were doing a
movie for a mass audience as well, so
you have to remember that there’s an
audience out there and they don’t know
who Sue Storm is and they don’t know
that their astronauts…they did what?
They don’t really care. They just want
to see a really good movie. And if you
can just draw them in…you’ll be ok. So
ah…we’ve always respected the fan base
but at the same time we just wanted to
make the best movie that we could.
Obviously Tim, we would like to see
you direct a second one. Would you be
prepared to do it?
Tim Story: I would definitely
want to come back for a second one. If
you’re familiar with these comic books,
we just scratched the surface. And this
is an origin movie. And there’s so many
characters. You know, there’s so much
that we have to get to. Now that these
guys are kind of comfortable with their
powers, there’s a whole nother attitude
that comes on. In this movie, Ben Grimm
is not wanting to be what he is. After
he is comfortable with what he is, he’s
a funny character. He’s kind of walking
around town like a super star. Avi knows
that I would love…just working with Avi
and the group was like…well, I don’t
want to say incredible...lol...it was
fantastic. So I would love to be back.
There’s been some talk of bringing
the Silver Surfer to life?
Tim Story:
Well, when it comes to the Silver
Surfer, I argue with Avi all the time
about…
Avi Arad: And he loses.
Tim Story: And
I lose all the time about I want Silver
Surfer for the third movie.
Avi Arad: The good news is
that Silver Surfer and Fantastic Four
are all in talks. And once we tell the
Silver Surfer story, there’s no reason
for sometimes in the future not to do
guest appearances and maybe connect the
story. But right now, there’s so many
fantastic stories to go. It’s all good
stuff to anticipate.
What was the
transition like Tim, coming from music
to film?
Tim Story: Well, coming from
music and this and that, I started with
film early like at age twelve. You know,
in my neighborhood, you either danced or
you rapped. And so I was a rapper for
awhile. At the end of high school, what
it really came down to was picking one
or the other. Film was the only medium
where you used everything. You know, you
used music, you use art, you use drama
and you use all of this and so, I knew
early on that I wanted to do this and
from a teenager I just drifted back to
it. I just fell in love with it and of
course got the opportunity to do films.
Does any money end up going to Jack
Kirby’ estate or his relatives?
Avi Arad: No. There’s no
money going to the Kirby estate. Jack
Kirby was a “hands for hire” like all
the Marvel artists. He got credit but
not money.
Tim, the younger generation might
think that this film is just taking from
The Incredibles, but it’s the other way
around. How would you explain that to
them?
Tim Story: I would just
explain to them that there’s origin.
When you look at The Incredibles, I
would say let me show you a comic that
was done about 40 plus years ago and
check this out. The Incredibles was made
in the last 5 years. I think it’s pretty
simple. I have a niece and nephew that I
had to educate as well so…I basically
just gave them these comic books and let
them read these comics. And now they’re
into them and they almost know more than
I do now. Just to see the education of
them. They love Incredibles. At the time
I was doing the movie, they didn’t know
what I was doing. To them, Uncle Tim was
doing another movie. When I explained to
them what this was, they just got it.
And I think it’s just as simple as that.
This is the origin of pretty much modern
comic books. This is where it started
with this magazine. It’s as simple as
that. I would say let me show you
something and they would get into it.
Why shoot in Vancouver?
Tim Story: Well, it’s just
expensive to shoot in New York. I mean,
we wanted to shut down the Brooklyn
Bridge. We can’t do that. So…I think
that Avi knows more about that than I
do, but I think …
Avi Arad:
Well, if you look at the movie,
the movie is in New York. It’s a movie.
The whole idea behind this industry is
to create …make a reality from
imagination and vice versa. So, you try
and shoot…and by the way, we did shoot
in New York. And we did a lot of places
in New York so we can integrate in with
the movie. Enough what one can expect to
be the classic Fantastic Four in
Manhattan. I wouldn’t take you through
all our movies. If I tell you where
certain scenes where shot in some
movies, you will absolutely sure you
would be in New York, you would be
shocked because it wouldn’t be in
Vancouver or other places. I have to say
one more thing about the fan base and
what we started with Tim. I have to
remind you that if you remember the
first week when we announced Bryan
Singer for X Men, not only was it
negative, it was actually despicable. It
was exactly the whole idea behind the
X-Men, the philosophy behind the X Men
was Descente grated by the fan base.
That’s why I was telling Tim, don’t read
it, and don’t pay attention to it. The
constituency of ours. The prudence of
building on the negative. I can give you
names, but I have no reason to make them
more famous than they think they are.
The point is, we have to pick out the
talent in what we believe is good for
the movie. The only place where we
listen to the fan base is in the
characters themselves. And if you go to
the movies and say, Chris Evans, he is
Johnny Storm. That means Tim Story is a
great director and Chris is a great
actor. From the fact that Jessica Alba
was not born blond it doesn’t mean
anything. It’s like times go by…things
change…let’s change with them. At the
same time, put Jessica to where blue eye
contacts. But it was such a thing,
“Well, Sue Storm had blue eyes”, but who
cares. Oh well, we’ll keep our heads to
it. But this is where the fan base and
their anxiety and love of characters
that sometimes get them overboard. So,
yes, I start my day reading all the
sides and they make some kind of hex
that I use Dr. Strange to help me fight
back these guys. As far as the talent,
they should concentrate on making the
movie and the fans the fun movie they
made.
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