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You once said:
"You're only given a little spark of
madness, you mustn't lose it." Is that
why you try to find the madness in every
role you take?
Robin Williams: Yeah, you try
and find...kind of the unusual traits,
the weird behavior. It was weird --
Marlon Brando, before he died, gave this
acting class and I got to listen for two
days. He said, (doing Brando) "You know,
everybody reads the paper, but people
read it a hundred different ways...find
your own way of reading the paper." And
he proceeded to read a paper...and then
he ate it. But, it was like finding
those weird little -- you know --
behavior...looks...things that help for
me.
What did you do
to develop this character in this film?
Robin Williams: I looked at a
lot of different syndromes. That's why
he has a very specific look -- he looks
almost like an elf. That's a
high-functioning form of mental handicap
-- they're socially capable but certain
things are very difficult for them, and
there, very literally, is a distortion
of the facial features. They're very
open and free that way. But, their
intellect is about that of an 11-year
old or 10-year old; emotionally, about
the same age. They can deal socially and
you think nothing at all is wrong. They
can talk and be like anybody else,
except you sense that certain things are
difficult for them. And that's why with
Anton [Yelchin], he's the brains and I'm
the brawn -- and peddling that bike
around, for me, was a blast. Riding that
bike around the village was like, "Yeah,
baby!"
This was your
exercise moment.
Robin Williams: Yeah. My
brief exercise moment, when I wasn't
riding my own bike. But, it was fun. The
greatest thing about this movie was that
we got to shoot in New York -- in the
Village, in SoHo, and not in
Toronto...not that Toronto is bad, for
those who live there.
Are you bummed
you didn't get to go to Paris?
Robin Williams: I wish I
could have gone for that one moment to
have a French person go, "I live here. I
don't care about your movies...I'm full
of warrior sperm, but every forty years,
the Germans come and take it. We had the
only production of "Anne Frank" where we
went 'she's upstairs!' Parisian
version." I wish I could have. I've
never done a movie in Paris. I'd love
to. I've done them in Italy, which was
great but...
What's this
song?
Robin Williams: The song --
the animated song was a song that was
basically implying that cartoon
characters are as fucked up as we are. I
remember some of the words: "Pinocchio's
had his nose done/Betty Boop works
Beverly Hills...Snow White's been up all
night..." A lot of that stuff, and at
one point it was like, "Casper's in the
Ku Klux Klan." They literally had a note
saying, "That's not in his character."
We went, "We know it isn't in his
character." We know there isn't some
Southern memo going around saying
(affects Southern accent) "Casper's been
a member for a number of years." It
wasn't even a censorship with people
writing letters saying "Why can't we
have good old-fashioned entertainment?
Like 'Birth of a Nation." I think it was
mainly coming from "the Mouse" [Disney]
saying "Don't mess with our characters
or you'll wake up with a Mr. Potato Head
in your bed." So, it was more corporate.
It's a very weird thing. Now, I hear
that Congress wants to try
and...Senators are going "You have to
censor HBO!" "That's right, Mr. DeLay.
As soon as that check clears, maybe
you'll know. Has your wife gotten the
money back yet?" "That's not my wife's
check. Or my daughter's!" "Filibuster.
That's a hypenate." No, sir. It's only
one word."
Many comedians
have dark sides. Charlie Chaplin....
Robin Williams: You mean dark
sides with thirteen year olds. Before
there was Michael, there was Charlie
going "Just step on the boat. Don't be
afraid." And Errol Flynn going, "You
could never have sex with a woman like
that. If you're at the porthole you
can."
...Steve
Martin...
Robin Williams: Steve Martin
has a dark side? He's serious, but its
dry. He was at dinner with Prince
Charles -- now that he's married, we can
talk...and now he can have dental work
-- and he said, "And what exactly do you
do?" Which, for the Royal Family, is a
big question. But, dark side?
I don't know. I
mean someone like Christopher Durang,
let's say. He's hysterical in his plays,
but off-stage, he's very serious.
Robin Williams: Oh, yes. A
lot of people are like that. For me it's
kind of both. I can be quiet -- like a
lady came up to me once in the airport
and said, "Be zany." I went, "What?"
It's like that thing Jon Stewart said
when he did that wonderful interview. He
said, "I'm not your monkey." Sometimes
it's fun to play, other times you have
to say "Okay, now. Thank you." The world
can hit you as pretty dark right now. It
rough when you read everything and go,
"Oh..." And then people are like "What's
wrong?" "I'm sorry. I just read the
paper. I'm a little bummed." But, dark
side? I don't think I have much of that.
But, like you said, with Chaplin...it
involved court, over a period of time.
Did you see the
Mork & Mindy TV Movie?
Robin Williams: No. When they
make a bad movie about your life, you
tend not to watch. You tend to wait for
it to be on the Cartoon Network or, at
least, on ice. When I heard about it, I
was like, "Oh, wow...I don't remember
those years to begin with."
So, when you're
playing this character, do you find it's
difficult to make a balance between
making the character real and having
moments where you want to make
little...some elements funny?
Robin Williams: They're
funny. They can be funny and knowingly
funny. Someone said, "Did you improvise
a lot?" I said, "No. He's not a riffing
kind of guy." If it is it's a lot
slower...and that's why he can go
through those jokes with Thomas and say
things -- and also be around him when he
starts to see the girl. He says things
that are obnoxious and he knows they're
obnoxious. He's like the little brother
trying to mess up a date. So, he's
capable of doing that. He can be very
open and, sometimes, very dark. If
things are angry and violent, and things
go wrong -- he can do what he did.
Do you ever
think there is a line you can cross --
exploitation?
Robin Williams: I remember
the day when I saw "I Am Sam." The
people you watched were the Down's
Syndrome people. Exploitation? I mean if
they're there, they exist. It's not
acting for them. I don't think they're
going, "I need another take. I really
don't think that was my character." A
friend of mine used to do a routine --
remember Corky, he used to have that
show? They don't have a lot of posses.
"Timmy wouldn't say that! And my posse
said that...my peeps, my main peeps."
There's not a big retarded posse hanging
around going "Yo! What's up? Throwin' it
down. Represent. Shoutin' it out to my
homeboys." Is there exploitation? There
is a fine line of walking that "are you
laughing at them?" or "are you laughing
with them?" Some of them can be very
funny, very real, and very open -- and
other times, very dark. It depends upon
how far you want to go with it.
I just talked
to Sigourney Weaver, who's doing
research for an autistic role. She
referred to it as -- she said she's "on
the spectrum of autism."
Robin Williams: She's
probably -- severe autism borders on
catatonic.
She's saying
that spectrum includes everybody.
Robin Williams: Oh yeah.
Different people have different
functions. It's like Paula Poundstone's
line, "Every family is dysfunctional."
You have autism, that
disconnect...which, in modern
society....what was it? Lange said he
thought schizophrenia was an
evolutionary response to modern society.
Basically, you have degrees of people
"playing sane." There's the rest of us,
and then, the few who are like, "Fuck
the pretense! I'm going to shit on the
table now. Does that bother you? I have
some warrior turds!"
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