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How did
you determine the name of your album?
Lord
Jamar:
I’ve been a member of the 5%
Nation for over 23 years now. The 5%
album is just…that’s what it’s all
about; the nation of Gods and Earths.
That’s who it’s for and that’s who I’m
trying to get understanding from.
Basically it’s the only album ever made
that is specifically focused on the 5%
Nation.
I
haven’t heard about the 5% Nation in
years.
Lord
Jamar:
That’s right. And that’s not
good. We’ve been in hip hop since the
beginning. We’ve had such a major
influence on this culture. At the very
least they were influenced by the 5%
Nation. We haven’t been seen as of
lately, how we used to be.
And for
those who don’t know, can you explain
what the 5% Nation is?
Lord
Jamar:
Basically, the 5% Nation is not a
religion, it’s a culture. It’s a
re-education. 5% represents the
population of the planet earth that
believes that God is within themselves
and there’s no mystery God in the sky.
And then you have 85% of the population
who have no knowledge of this and
believes basically what is told to
them. Then there is the 10% who have
the knowledge but hold it from the 85%
in order to be the blood suckers of the
poor; to be able to use their knowledge
to be able to oppress.
Doesn’t
the Five Percent Nation have Islamic
values?
Lord
Jamar:
You
have traditional Islam’ as far as
Orthodox Muslims of a more Middle
Eastern Islam. And then you have Islam
for here in North America which
circumstances that are a little
different. So this came out of Islam
which was in North America from like
Elijah Muhammad, Malcolm X and the
Nation of Islam of North America. The
father Allah, Clarence 13 X Smith, he
was a member of the Nation of Islam. He
was in temple number 7. So this comes
out of that type of Islam. Not the Islam
that you might think of in the Middle
East or something. So, it’s quite
different. It addresses more of the
concerns and the civic things that’s
happen to black people here in North
America.
Are you
trying to resurrect that with this
album?
Lord
Jamar:
It’s not that it was dead so it’s
not a resurrection. I’d say it’s
something to show and give concrete for
history to see our influence in hip hop
and just our influence in general. It’s
to clarify who we are and what we’re
about.
What
songs portray that on this album?
Lord
Jamar:
I’d say a song like ‘Greatest
Story Never Told’, with that you can get
a good history on the Five Percent
Nation and how it started. A song like
‘Supreme Mathematics’; ‘Original Man’ …a
lot of the songs on there really; …
So
basically this album is to give people a
better understanding about the Five
Percent Nation?
Lord
Jamar:
I’m not here to preach to anybody. I’m
here to let people know what I’m into.
For the people that think like me, they
gone love this. But really it’s for
people who think like me. If you take
the Five Percent out of the equation,
then there’s just good hip hop. You’ll
like that too.
Are you
still involved with Brand Nubian?
Lord
Jamar:
Absolutely. They’re on my album.
But this is my time. They, both of them,
have had solo albums. We still did Brand
Nubian albums after that.
Why such
a long wait for a solo project?
Lord
Jamar:
Just a lot of things going on.
And I’ve been kind of critical of myself
over the years. I had songs that I’ve
felt good about but I’ve never had a
body of work that I’ve felt strongly
about. So I think its just timing.
Timing is everything. Sometimes it takes
a long time for your time to come
around.
‘Respect
the music. Don’t burn or upload’ is
what’s on your release. What do you
think of technology and its effects on
music?
Lord
Jamar:
Technology is helping the little
man. It’s helping to level the playing
field. You can have a studio in your
crib now. You don’t have to pay all this
money in the studio just to get your
ideas down. Technology is enabling you
to …relatively you can make records in
your crib. That’s how I made most of
this record. In my crib. And then the
internet makes it able for you to touch
people and get your information out
there fast.
Does new
technology cause you to have more
control over your music?
Lord
Jamar:
Well, as someone who’s been in
the game a long time, I’m not really
worried about that. I’m educated enough
in this game where I’m not worried about
them trying to take the publishing and
all that type of stuff. You can get
scammed no matter what happens.
Especially if you’re doing this from
home, somebody can come in there and
talk you into giving your publishing
away. It makes it easier to get
whatever you want out there without
having to rely on a big machine to do
it. As far as people downloading, it’s
cool. I’m not really mad at that. First
of all, my particular record comes with
a book that is very informative. If you
really want to get a clear
understanding, your not just gonna want
to download the record, you’ll need
something to go with the record so
downloading this particular album to get
the full effect…that’s not going to help
you.
Tell me
about the book that comes with the
record.
Lord
Jamar:
It comes with the record. A 90
page book chronicling the history of the
Five Percent Nation, the different
artists from the beginning of hip hop
until now who have made there affect and
stand point in this game.
Brand
Nubian is icons in the game. You’ve been
through tight jeans, loose jeans. Timbs.
What do you think hip hop has become?
Lord
Jamar:
Hip Hop
is many different things. What are they
focusing on? LOL. Because I think what
they are focusing on is not what hip hop
is. The focus is materialism and
basically, you know some bullshit. But
that’s not the whole genre of hip hop.
And we have to realize that there are
other things out there that are just not
getting promoted the same way as what we
see in the mainstream of hip hop.
In your
experience, are there more underground
cats that have more devotion to the real
focus of hip hop as oppose to the
glamorous side of it?
Lord
Jamar: Absolutely.
There are plenty of artists out there.
Dead Prez a group that I brought to the
table. There’s a lot of people out there
that have something to say that aren’t
getting played.
What do
you think of the major changes in hip
hop, as far as the Biggie Smalls, the
Tupacs, etc? And how did it get there?
Lord Jamar:
Hip hop
is just a reflection of society. Of what
happens in life from being in the hood.
It’s like, the Biggies and Tupacs’ die
everyday but we don’t know their
names…know what I mean? There are so
many people who are loved by so many
people who get killed and shot everyday.
It just so happens that those people, we
knew on a mass scale so it really
affected a lot of people. It’s just
symbolic of what happens in society
period. How did we get there? We got
there just from being here in America.
In a violent society. We grow up with
violence around us, hearing it in movies
and all types of shit.
What can
people derive from your album?
Lord
Jamar:
Life messages. ‘The Corner of the
Streets’…that is a cautionary tale of
history.
You
worked with quite a few people on this
album?
Lord
Jamar:
I got RZA, Raekwon, Wu-Tang,
Prodical Son. Young GZA, Young Dirty. I
got my youngest son on there. Brother’
from Long Island, I got 40 Bandits.
How was
it working with your son?
Lord
Jamar:
It was great. His name is Jamar. But on
the record it’s Young Lord.
Does he
have anything coming out himself?
Lord
Jamar:
Not really. He’s on this cause this is a
family thing. In the Five Percent Nation
we stress to save the babies. So I had a
song, ‘Young Gods’, dealing with the
babies. Being that it was all about the
children, I thought that it was best
that I let the children represent
themselves.
Any
advice?
Lord
Jamar:
Be original.
Lord Jamar: The 5%
Nation in stores June 28th 2006.
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